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BM | 23rd May 2007, 3:09 PM | 武道經歷

五、六十年代香港潮流興"天台講手",我也不落後,在1969年10月某日安排了我的學生在大角咀某大厦天台跟其他人"講手"。

事件起因是我數個大坑東社區中心道場的徒弟跟他們中學同學們的口舌之爭,當時他們已跟我學了空手道一年,也剛在館賽中拿了白帶組手冠、季軍,在學校同學間當然口沫橫飛,也引起一班學跆拳道的同學不滿。

當年正剛館是只有白(7-10级)、綠(6-4级)、啡(1-3级)和黑帶。他們學了只有一年所以剛升綠帶,但他們學跆拳道一年的同學已升黑帶,所以引起比試比試一下的興趣,碰巧他們的跆拳道師傅是我學跆拳道時的師兄弟,"講手"一事一拍即合。

事前先集訓,把我在金福萬先生班上所學的心得詳細分析、研究對策,上了兩堂就上陣。

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出征前合照

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向學生們示範跆拳道的spinning back kick

據我估計,跆拳道的"標準動作"是一開始就坐左horse stance,然後大叫一聲才來一招右腳spinning back kick,只為在跆拳道背部不是target所以一般不會防守這部位。

因雙方比賽規則不同所以當時議定除要害部位(眼、喉及下陰)外、兩分鐘內以"吋止"方式取得"一分"分勝負,一共打五場,當日由雙方議定請某知名國術教練做裁判。

結果可想而知。

我只教了一招:聽叫聲后上前一步抬右手擋腳、同一時間左手中段逆突,然後順手推落地再一拳埋單。

這場"講手"也有一些餘波,一星期後某日吾道館來了二十多人,自稱是跆拳道黑帶要來領教正剛館白帶的功夫,但被怕事的經理拒於門外。

天台講手的歷史背景

 

留言(6) | 引用(0) | 話題(武術)

[1]

兩張照片都是在九龍華仁的School Hall外面拍的啊。


[引用] | 作者 chris | 31st May 2007 5:28 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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Chris 兄好眼力


[引用] | 作者 BM | 2nd Jun 2007 5:07 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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莫鍊士此言有重空手道而輕跆拳道之嫌。現今Youtube內有不少短片以甚麽詠春打低泰拳、空手道打低泰拳等,大有自欺欺人的味道。寸止式的空手道和WTF跆拳道得分式的比試其實意義不大。極真空手道和ITF跆拳道比試較接近實際博擊。但小弟相信假如真有這種比試,聰明的一方會加強泰拳式培訓,以求勝利。


[引用] | 作者 ChatChai | 21st Jun 2007 2:41 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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ChatChai :
莫鍊士此言有重空手道而輕跆拳道之嫌。現今Youtube內有不少短片以甚麽詠春打低泰拳、空手道打低泰拳等,大有自欺欺人的味道。寸止式的空手道和WTF跆拳道得分式的比試其實意義不大。極真空手道和ITF跆拳道比試較接近實際博擊。但小弟相信假如真有這種比試,聰明的一方會加強泰拳式培訓,以求勝利。

Thanks for your comment, sorry I've to reply in English because this PC doesn't support Chinese Imput.

What I've written reflects the situation in the late 60s where training methods and tournament styles were QUITE DIFFERENT from today. Most people in those days were trained in a "closed" enviornment. Please also note that in the 60s there was no WTF and TKD was ITF very much the same as karate.

FYI, dojo kumite in the 60s was no-hold barred until you yourself shout "maeda" meaning "stop". Kyukushinkai system was also based on this method.

寸止式空手道 was only for formal tournaments and very often was ignored. Many karateka in that era can testified to this.

I was not trying to "重空手道而輕跆拳道", I was just stating what had happened in those early days. There were several other encounters but I will not write about them because I was not personally involved.

Of course things have changed a lot since the 60s and nowadays everybody has a chance to cross-trained and gain an insight into other styles and what happened was certainly past history.


[引用] | 作者 BM | 22nd Jun 2007 7:33 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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莫鍊士這番解釋比較合理,在六七八十年代資訊沒有現在發達,武術的發展比較封閉,因此有各種傳說和神話。最近看了一條當年江富德對周比利的博擊片段,當年就如「南華對精工」的一大拳壇盛事,以現在水平看來有點滑稽。
小弟早年習跆拳道,看見現在的奧運跆拳道實在覺得跆拳道進了奧運有了很大轉變。大家只練Double Turning Kick,沒有手部動作,沒有防守。只能說現在的WTF跆拳道是以腳接觸對手護甲取分的運動,已脫離作為武術的本質。同時為了推廣,段位制度已變得較濫。
不知莫鍊士對空手道的發展有何看法及期望?推廣推廣,要推必須要廣,要廣必須要變,門檻要降低,這是必然的嗎?


[引用] | 作者 ChatChai | 22nd Jun 2007 3:33 PM | [舉報垃圾留言]

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Dear ChatChai,

Thanks for your understanding. As to the future development of karate-do, there are a lot of debates during the past 40 years. There is a paradox here, to popularise karate, tournaments are needed to attract people especially young people but to promote sport karate, the tradional value will be slowly gone. A very good example is Judo and Jujitsu. TKD is fortunate to have both WTF and ITF. At the moment JKF, AKF and WKF are all trying hard to promote sport karate but some styles, at least most of Goju-ryu are trying to preserve the traditional aspect of karate-do.

This karate vs karate-do is certainly a big subject and I hope to write about this later.


[引用] | 作者 BM | 23rd Jun 2007 7:21 AM | [舉報垃圾留言]